We cut my son’s hair..he is a college student paying his way through school. He would wash it about every other day or two and never used any product in it. He is half Vietnamese. It is a level 3 black or 4 dark brown. Medium fine strands thick and strong. Gorgeous. One would think it was from some beautiful girl. I harvested it as I will post the pics. It is more on the side of 14 inches. 4 1/2 inch circumference.